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The Sodshow – July 29 – A Lissadell House Special

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Sodshow 29 July 2011 A Lissadell House Special (mp3)

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This weeks guest:

  • Keith McNair – Discover Sligo – and StraightBananas.eu Keith will be talking to me about Lissadell House and Gardens, Sligo – how, what, why and the future.

Next week the show will return to it’s normal format but for this week, we felt it was deserved of a show to itself.

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Sligo County Council Win. Lissadell And Sligo Lose

The High Court has ruled that public rights of way exist across the grounds of historic Lissadell House in Co Sligo, according to RTE and its website.

From an Edward Walsh, Constance Cassidy and family persepctive it notes…

However, they said they could not continue to operate it as a tourist amenity if rights of way existed. This afternoon, they said the gates of the estate would be opened today but their dream for Lissadell House was over.

So Sligo County Council have won their battle, albeit very stupidly on behalf of the people of Sligo but in reality everyone has lost. There are no winners in this case. It will essentially cost the taxpayer and the state, in more ways than one.

If you want to see an example of what one family could have done for an area try Lough Key in Roscommon. That is, although very differently the general idea, except this was being done privately. I wonder [for eg] just how much revenue the locality gained after just one concert in the estate.

Sligo County Council had noted their statement via Twitter at 9.40pm this evening. These are the quotes from their statement that I found interesting….

Sligo County Council’s over-riding concern in this case, was to safeguard the public interest…..

The Council wishes them every success with this venture and hopes that Lissadell will continue to play an important role in the heritage and tourism sectors…..

The Council believes that this issue could and should have been resolved locally, by negotiation. The Council did everything it reasonably could to achieve such a settlement, including an offer of mediation, but all its approaches were rejected out of hand.

….interesting based on the two posts I have previously written on this.

Let me just take a part of a quote from the first post and the family statement

On 1st December 2008 Sligo County Council, without any notice to us…..

I personally hope it opens again. Either or I  am with the family on this one….

Why would anyone continue?

UPDATE: 21st Dec It seems LissadellHouse.com has been taken down.

ALSO: from The Sligo Today – yet more logic. That is, apart from the colourful comments by a ‘Diane O’Brian’.

And so, following the longest High Court action in the history of the state, the future of Sligo’s most historic tourist attraction and open-air concert venue hangs in a delicate balance, weighed between the few hundred people who will exercise the rights of way and the 40,000 annual visitors complimented by an extra 30,000 concert goers.

Mr Walsh told waiting reporters, “We took on what the State was not prepared to do. We had a vision. The vision is over. My involvement ceases.”

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Sligo County Council and Lissadell Gets Interesting….

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I had written a post under the title Sligo County Council Close Lissadell House
read it and come back if you wish……

And I have just received this email…. Sligo County Council ** Lissadell House is a client of Michaels by the way.

Mr. Donegan,
please try and get some of your facts right concerning the situation at Lissadell.

Your website dramatically announces ‘Sligo County Council close Lissadell House’.

Untrue. The Council agreed to amend the county development plan to include ‘provision’ for the “preservation of rights of way”.

This action did not change any law, but merely gave rise to due process where all interested parties could have a say.

At that point the current owners closed Lissadell House, and initiated high court proceedings _agains_t Sligo County Council.

I direct you to current reportage in yesterdays and todays Irish Times;

that is if you want facts, as opposed to the somewhat hysterical and rather creepy approach from your odd website.

I ask you to correct your website’s headline to: ‘Lissadell owners close their own holiday home despite Councils calls for mediation and compromise’.

from Michael Wann

* I have not replied to this email by the way.

UPDATE 21st january ’10

**Michael has been in touch again… and hence the ammendment to the the above notation. It is in fact noted on his website michaelwann[dot]com that in fact his art is in Sligo and Lissadell House rather than with Sligo County Council.

UPDATE 23nd January 2010

Michael I know you will be reading this….. please stop emailing me. 

Sligo County Council Close Lissadell House

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I remember hearing about this last year in one of the trade magazines and going straight past the headline…. mainly because I thought to myself

No County Council would be stupid enough to do so….

I was extremely wrong. A major catastrophe has developed and thanks to an extremely well written piece by Rosita Boland on the Lissadell situation it has hit the headlines Ireland and in this weekends Irish Times. Well worth reading.

Let me give you the gist of the story…..

Sligo County Council could have bought this house in 2003 but chose not to. Instead the Gore family bought it for €3.75 million according to their statement  as a private property‘ [then spent €800,000 on contents]. The house at the time was almost derelict. This obviously doesn’t include maintenance and a lot of staff and to date €12 million has been invested in the estate. Lissadell house has also not received any public funding.

Second…. I’ve been to Sligo. It is very beautiful… but there isn’t a lot by way of tourist attractions and in 2008 Lissadell attracted 44,000 visitors.

Here’s where it gets a little odd….

On 1st December 2008 Sligo County Council, without any notice to us, passed a resolution that the Council “amend the current County Development Plan to include in it a provision for the preservation of the public rights of way along routes through the Lissadell Estate” in accordance with section 14 of the Planning and Development Act 2000. These routes include the path running right in front of the doors of the House itself.

Their statement continues…..

For a public right of way to exist, it must be expressly dedicated by the owner of the land. That is the law. There is no evidence that any such dedication was ever made over any part of the Lissadell Estate, either when it was a 4,000 acre estate, or when it was reduced to the current 400 acres in the 1960s. Indeed it would defy common sense to dedicate as a public road an internal path right beside the front door of your house.

Whats funny now is that on Tuesday the family must defend themselves in court against Sligo County Council. Can you imagine if this were to happen to you…..? This is  ridiculous. And Sligo County Council should be ashamed of themselves.  According to Rosita Bolands article it was difficult to find anyone to speak on the record or in support of the councils actions. This includes Joe Leonard who was the brains behind this issue…..

My suggestion….. send Joe an email or give a call and let him know how you feel.

Councillor Joe Leonard

Drumcliffe Elected Member
Party: Fine Gael
Elected: 1985
Address: Cloonaghbawn Ballinfull Co Sligo
Phone: 071 9163443
Mobile:
Email: leonardjoe@eircom.net

In closing Constance Cassidy and her husband Eamon Walsh note

OUR VISION was to transform the estate into a flagship for tourism in Sligo and the North West, and to provide a secure environment for our seven children……

………..We have avoided the easy options to exploit and develop Lissadell commercially, but there is only so much one family can do. If we do not enjoy the support of the councillors who represent the people of Sligo then our efforts are at naught. Why would anyone continue?

Edward Walsh, Constance Cassidy and family.

UPDATE: As usual, I have emailed both Joe Leonard and Lisadell House to let them know of this piece. As yet Joe Leonard has not responded

Oh by the way this is the same Joe Leonard with *the famous poster 😉

UPDATE:

see post: Lissadell House gets interesting

UPDATE: The Sodshow speaks with Keith McNair

polldaddy… technology for a gardener #5

The entire list of companies for ‘technology for a gardener’ is/will be here.

polldaddyThis is piece #5. This is Polldaddy.

Put simply, we know what a poll is. We also know what a survey is… If you have ever been stopped on the street and asked for ‘a few minutes of your time…’ well, how does one make you want to give that time? How do you make it sexy..?

For example…

Polldaddy seems to be is the answer for me. I’m not big on the surveys myself. But short & snappy, tap one button and hey presto – does work.. I used it to great example here for what I called the garden polls…with very varying and interesting results. Worthwhile? me think so…

The beauty about this is.. if you got a few dollars to spare – or you’re like me and you’ll only use it now and again [free] you’re very well looked after. Sihning up is also very easy and simple. All good. They also have a blog… and from that I nabbed this video… really easy peasy 🙂

I spoke to a really nice guy called Donncha about Polldaddy. Donncha told me that although it has been sold on/ bought out…

not only was it Irish owned and one of the success stories of Ireland, but it is still based and operated from Sligo…

Not bad going… here’s what techcrunch say about polldaddy

Website: polldaddy.com
Location: Co. Sligo, Ireland
Founded: September 1, 2006
Acquired: October 15, 2008 by Automattic

PollDaddy is a service that provides polling widgets for blogs, websites, and social networks. PollDaddy has recently entered a partnership with Piczo to provide poll services to their 30 million users….

So I say well done lads. Great service. Great product and of course there is this…